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Eine Person steht vor der "Gesten"-Station in der Ausstellung "On Water. WasserWissen in Berlin" und betrachtet ein Video, das dort gezeigt wird

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“Science Is Like a Journey”

Inken Sarah Mischke on short films about research, the enthusiasm behind scientific work, and the question of how knowledge leads to change.

Interview: Dr. Thomas Lilge · Conducted on September 28, 2026

Inken Sarah Mischke is a cinematographer, director, and owner of the production company Perola Filmes. For the interactive station “The Craft of Science” in the exhibition “On Water. WasserWissen in Berlin,” she presented various research projects in short films. The station was conceived by Thomas Lilge, who also conducted this interview and took part in the filming. Visitors access the films by imitating the researchers’ hand movements. In this conversation, Mischke talks about filming on a glacier, at Berlin’s waterways, and at an algae farm—and about why, for her, science communication begins with storytelling.

Research as a journey: Filming took the team all the way to the Hintereisferner glacier in Austria.

Dear Sarah, what was the biggest challenge in presenting such different research projects in short films?

The biggest challenge was translating the research into a different form: doing justice to the researchers and their work while making it understandable in just a few minutes. In that short time, viewers need to grasp what someone is researching and why it matters.

I would also have thought of our ascent with Tobias Sauter to his research site on the Hintereisferner glacier in Austria—with luggage and camera equipment, up to around 3,000 meters.

Yes, and I had just had dental surgery, too! But to be honest, that was less the biggest challenge than the most beautiful and moving experience. We spent two nights in a mountain refuge and were able to experience the research on the glacier up close. How often do you get to do something like that?

It was also special to see Tobias there. When you climb a mountain together as a group and spend time together, you get to know one another differently. You come to understand more about the person, the research expertise he has built up over decades, and the way he works: What does Tobias analyze? Who does he collaborate with? How does he involve students and doctoral researchers?

We could watch them discovering things together and see how curious he himself remained. At times he was genuinely excited because the wind had just created certain conditions or something else was of interest for his research. Witnessing that enthusiasm was incredibly special.

How do you make complex science understandable without distorting it?

For me, it starts with telling a story and making something tangible. That applies to science communication just as much as to other fields. Facts alone are not enough. You need context; you want to be drawn in, stay curious, and understand what something is about—and what it is not about.

To do that, you have to translate complexity into simple connections. I imagine that is not always easy when you are deeply immersed in a field of research yourself. Sometimes I compare it to a good children’s book: There is a simple story that gets to the heart of something. Science can work that way, too. The task of explaining something clearly is also a valuable challenge for researchers themselves: How well do I understand what I do, and how can I communicate it to others?

It is also about the significance of research for society. What happens to the findings? What do they change? For me, this became very clear at Berlin’s waterways. The Panke River was once nicknamed the “Stinkepanke” (“Stinky Panke”). We saw ducks, plants, and a thriving environment there. Together with the explanations of the research, this made a process of change visible.

The researchers want to understand which factors affect water quality and how it can be improved. That gives their work a direct connection to our lives: How can we maintain high water quality in Berlin in the future?

We were also impressed by Christian Marx’s perseverance. His daily sampling became a central motif in your film.

For five years, he took a water sample from the same bridge every single day. He cycled there in all kinds of weather, including Sundays and public holidays, lowered his sampling cup, and collected the sample. There was something very tender about it.

The way he talked about it was interesting, too. It had long since become part of his everyday life, and you had the impression he genuinely enjoyed doing it. Suddenly, research that would otherwise seem abstract becomes tangible through a specific action someone repeats over many years.

The researchers’ enthusiasm seems to have been contagious.

Absolutely. During filming, we became completely swept up in the excitement. We kept renaming our WhatsApp group as a fan club for the researchers: sometimes for Christian, sometimes for Tobias, sometimes for someone else. We simply loved how passionately they worked, the questions they asked, and the ideas they came up with.

We also went out with Christian and a group of students. They investigated their surroundings in a very hands-on way, examining the soil, for example. I found it exciting that university teaching could take place like this: outdoors, through practical investigations, and in English.

Some encounters even developed into friendships. We recently went to a barbecue at Tobias and his partner Julia’s place. So the collaboration continued beyond filming.

How did you and the researchers decide together what was essential for the films?

First, I want to emphasize how well our team worked together—you, Tom, Dorothea Wagnerberger, and me. Dorothea prepared the interviews very thoroughly. We then developed the films together from the questions and answers. We shortened things and considered: How can we weave a story out of this? Where do we begin? What narrative arc can we find?

Despite their differences, the films were also meant to be comparable. For that, they needed a certain shared format. In each case, the researchers’ gestures were central.

It was a collaborative effort and a learning experience for the scientists, too. You cannot simply show up, conduct an interview, and then just cut it down. You have to work together to figure out how to tell the story of the research in this format.

The researchers’ gestures take center stage at the interactive station “Handwerk der Wissenschaften“

Visitors imitate a hand movement made by the researchers to discover the films. What does this physical, playful approach change?

I thought your idea for the station was incredibly good, precisely because it is so simple. A gesture creates a connection. By imitating it, you engage with your own body while exploring a movement taken from the researchers’ work. It sparks curiosity, and you are no longer just watching passively.

I like how small and manageable it is. It is playful, which also reflects my own approach. The movement is easy to understand, regardless of someone’s age or where they come from.

At the same time, it already communicates something about science: Research is not just about sitting at a desk and writing. There is much more to it. The gesture opens a door to that wider world. It builds a bridge that is often missing from conventional science films.

As the person who came up with the concept, I’m naturally glad to hear that. But back to the visitors: What do you hope they take away from watching a film?

I want them to feel they have experienced something. Of course, they might also have learned a figure or understood a connection. But it is equally important to me that they sense the atmosphere and the researchers’ enthusiasm for their work—and see the different places where research happens.

For one film, for example, we went to an algae farm in Kiel and also filmed underwater. Ony Yan had designed and developed a prototype system intended for algae to grow on. It had been in the water for months. She did not know beforehand how much algae had actually grown on it. We were there at the exact moment it was pulled out of the water.

We held the algae in our hands, laughed, and shared the joy of seeing the result. Those are the moments I want to communicate. And the collaborative work, too, as on our cycling excursion with Christian and the group of students.

In a way, science is a journey: You begin with a research question, but you do not yet know the answer. There are milestones along the way and always something new to discover.

That was apparent on the glacier as well. When we arrived, Tobias’s doctoral researchers had already set up the equipment. Just imagine what it takes to plan and accomplish something like that on a glacier! Tobias was delighted by how precisely and skillfully they had worked. You could sense that he had a team around him he could rely on.

I wanted to tell that part of the story as well: everything it takes for research to succeed, how people collaborate, and how they celebrate their findings.

How do you see these science films fitting into the rest of your work?

For me, it was a wonderful assignment. I studied Gender Studies and Latin American Studies at Humboldt University and earned my Magister degree. So I know academia from many years of experience. Combining that background with the work I do today was a wonderful challenge. I could do something like this every day.

It did not feel like a side project to me, but like a very natural fit. I bring a playful and sensory style from other areas of my work. Translating that into science films was a great combination.

My collaboration with you, Tom, actually began earlier. After I had spent four years producing and also visually developing cooking shows for Deutsche Welle, you approached me from the Berlin University Alliance. You asked whether we could develop a science cooking show together that would enable the exchange of knowledge.

Since then, at the latest, I have been deeply engaged with science communication. How can you build a bridge to scientific findings that initially seem dry or difficult to access? With the cooking show, our idea was to cook and talk about a scientific topic at the same time. The challenge comes from bringing those two things together. There is no need to force the humor.

Similar questions arise in the book trailers I regularly make for Suhrkamp Verlag, including one I am working on right now. How do you tell the story of a book in a short film? Which passages do you choose? I work with the authors to do that. I am interested in how content can be translated into stories that people can experience visually.

I deliberately work across different fields: for Deutsche Grammophon, for Rosenthal for many years, and across music, literature, design, art, food, dance, and science communication. I have also undertaken further training in systemic coaching, design thinking, systemic design, and leadership, as well as in somatic practice—specifically, Fluentbody. All of these experiences feed into my work.

I want my films to do more than simply fulfill a brief. In “Catching the Big Fish,” David Lynch describes how the big ideas lie in deep water. I like that image: diving in first, even into the unknown, and then resurfacing with ideas. Playfully and with an open mind.

Has the work also inspired you to pursue new projects in terms of subject matter?

Yes. Above all, I cannot stop thinking about water. At the “Confluence of European Water Bodies” in Berlin, I met many people from research and other fields again, including Léon Gross from the Symbiotic Lab. I am also currently working on a documentary film about water in Brazil. It is an incredibly important subject.

I am especially interested in what science can contribute not only to public debate but also to putting sustainable, future-oriented concepts into practice. We need these scientists. They are visionaries, too, because they engage deeply with things many people have not even heard of yet.

We talked a lot about the climate crisis during filming—including the possibility that the Hintereisferner glacier could disappear by the end of this century. How does engaging with these issues translate into action in your own life?

I started the YouTube series “People for Change” on my own initiative. Reading Donna Haraway also played a part in that. I kept asking myself: Where are the levers for change? Why is so little happening? What is holding us back?

I noticed how surrounded we are by negative messages. When we talk about the climate, it is usually about the crisis. How could we tell that story differently? There are so many people already doing wonderful things whom we can learn from—including in science.

I visit these people and talk to them. For example, I interviewed Jennifer Schulz, who initiated and developed the “Urbane Waldgärten” (“Urban Forest Gardens”) project and the forest garden in Berlin-Britz together with her team. This pioneering project in the middle of the city shows how plants, animals, soil, and water interact. Nothing grows in isolation. I find that a fascinating achievement.

I am interested in people who combine knowledge with commitment and actually bring projects to life. Examples like these show that implementation is possible—and give us something to learn from. Many people would like to get involved but do not know how. “People for Change” presents concrete opportunities, such as supporting the BaumEntscheid Berlin initiative, which is looking for help.

What does that mean for the way we deal with water here in Berlin?

When you engage with the exhibition and the research, you realize that clean drinking water from the tap is not something to take for granted. In many countries, it is not available.

We stood with Christian in Humboldthain park, looking out over the city. His first question was, “What do you see?” Greenery! It reminded me once again how important green spaces and a functioning water cycle are for the city. Berlin’s drinking water comes from groundwater and bank filtration—that is, water that seeps from rivers and lakes through the soil and is naturally filtered in the process. It is treated at the waterworks but requires no added chlorine. Madrid, by contrast, uses chlorine compounds, among other things, for disinfection. Such differences show how much goes into our everyday water supply.

This is not just a responsibility for science, but for all of us. We have to engage with these issues and ask what we ourselves can do. For example, the “Rights of the Spree” initiative advocates for the Spree River. I would like to get involved there, too.

At “Confluence” at the Floating University, you also explored how bodies of water might be given a voice. What interests you about that?

That is where I encountered the term “waterbody”: Bodies of water were represented by people who had traveled from different countries. I spoke with the Italian campaigner Roberta Bosu, who represented Antarctica. The idea is to think beyond our human perspective and give bodies of water a voice.

In Spain, the Mar Menor lagoon and its catchment area were granted legal personality and rights of their own in 2022. That goes beyond conventional nature conservation: An ecosystem itself becomes a legal subject. Companies can be legal persons—so why should we not grant bodies of water rights of their own? I find approaches like these very exciting.

If you could give Antarctica the floor to close our conversation, what would it say?

That is a fascinating question because it challenges us not to see, act, and judge solely from a human-centered perspective, but to try to put ourselves in the place of bodies of water. I do not know if I can answer it yet, but I want to explore it further.

Antarctica does not have a voice of its own that we can hear. It needs our voices. Rivers need us, too, to stand up for them.

Much is still intact; that richness is still there. And some people believe they can become rich by destroying precisely that richness.

 

Link to the Perola Filmes website and its YouTube channel.

Inken Sarah Mischke and Thomas Lilge